{"id":7185,"date":"2013-10-08T21:49:12","date_gmt":"2013-10-08T18:49:12","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/?p=7185"},"modified":"2019-07-12T20:16:07","modified_gmt":"2019-07-12T18:16:07","slug":"osmanliyi-savunan-profesore-bulgaristana-giris-yasagi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/osmanliyi-savunan-profesore-bulgaristana-giris-yasagi\/","title":{"rendered":"Osmanl\u0131&#8217;y\u0131 Savunan Profes\u00f6re Bulgaristan&#8217;a Giri\u015f Yasa\u011f\u0131"},"content":{"rendered":"<div>\u0130spanya&#8217;da Osmanl\u0131 tarihi \u00fczerine \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan say\u0131l\u0131 akademisyenlerden Prof. Dr.Miguel\u00a0Angel de Bunes Ibarra, Osmanl\u0131&#8217;y\u0131 savundu\u011fu gerek\u00e7esiyle Bulgar h\u00fck\u00fcmetinin kendisine \u00fclkeye giri\u015f yasa\u011f\u0131 koydu\u011funu a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131.<b><!--more--><\/b><\/div>\n<div><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Osmanli_armasi.png\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignleft size-medium wp-image-7186\" alt=\"Osmanli_armasi\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Osmanli_armasi-240x300.png?resize=240%2C300\" width=\"240\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Osmanli_armasi.png?resize=240%2C300&amp;ssl=1 240w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Osmanli_armasi.png?resize=768%2C960&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Osmanli_armasi.png?resize=819%2C1024&amp;ssl=1 819w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Osmanli_armasi.png?w=1000&amp;ssl=1 1000w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 240px) 100vw, 240px\" \/><\/a>&#8220;Bulgar k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc, dili ve\u00a0<b>Bulgaristan<\/b>&#8216;\u0131n bir \u00fclke olarak karakterleri Osmanl\u0131 idaresi s\u00fcresince m\u00fckemmel olarak korundu.&#8221; diyen \u0130spanyol Profes\u00f6re, yakla\u015f\u0131k 4 y\u0131l \u00f6nce\u00a0<b>Avrupa Birli\u011fi<\/b>\u00a0\u00fcyesi\u00a0<b>Bulgaristan<\/b>&#8216;a giri\u015f yasa\u011f\u0131 konuldu\u011fu ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Osmanl\u0131 Devleti&#8217;nin klasik d\u00f6nemi \u00fczerinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar y\u00fcr\u00fcten\u00a0<b>Miguel<\/b>\u00a0Angel de Bunes Ibarra, Cihan\u00a0Haber\u00a0Ajans\u0131&#8217;n\u0131n (Cihan) sorular\u0131n\u0131 cevaplad\u0131.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Balkanlar&#8217;da Osmanl\u0131&#8217;n\u0131n son d\u00f6nemlerinde ortaya \u00e7\u0131kan romantik milliyet\u00e7i nefretin halen devam etti\u011fini aktaran Ibarra, Bulgar h\u00fck\u00fcmetine aleyhinde iki kere diplomatik yollardan \u015fikayette bulunuldu\u011funu bu y\u00fczden de bu \u00fclkeye giri\u015f yasa\u011f\u0131 konuldu\u011funu aktard\u0131.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Profes\u00f6r Ibarra, &#8220;Balkan milliyet\u00e7ili\u011finin ortaya \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131ndan sonra Osmanl\u0131 k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc yok edildi. Balkan milliyet\u00e7ileri Osmanl\u0131 ve T\u00fcrk varl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan rahats\u0131z oluyorlar. Onlar\u0131n d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcncesine g\u00f6re, kendi k\u00fclt\u00fcrlerini yok eden bir imparatorlu\u011fa ait olduklar\u0131n\u0131 hat\u0131rlatt\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in mescitler, k\u00f6pr\u00fcler gibi eserlerin yan\u0131s\u0131ra ar\u015fivleri de yok etmeye \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131lar.\u00a0<b>T\u00fcrkiye<\/b>&#8216;nin de az\u0131nl\u0131klara kar\u015f\u0131 iyi davrand\u0131\u011f\u0131 s\u00f6ylenemez, mesela Rumlar\u0131n mal varl\u0131\u011f\u0131na el konulmas\u0131 ve geri verilmemesi gibi. Yunanlar da ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde davrand\u0131.&#8221; ifadelerini kulland\u0131.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>&#8220;Buna milliyet\u00e7ilik deniliyor ve bu yanl\u0131\u015f.&#8221; diyen \u0130spanyol akademisyen, &#8220;D\u00f6rt-be\u015f sene \u00f6nce Bulgarlar benim i\u00e7in Bulgar h\u00fck\u00fcmetine iki kere diplomatik yollardan \u015fikayette bulundular. Osmanl\u0131 Devleti&#8217;ni savunmaktan dolay\u0131\u00a0<b>Bulgaristan<\/b>&#8216;a giri\u015fim yasak.\u00a0<b>Avrupa<\/b>&#8216;dalar ama nefretleri devam ediyor. Osmanl\u0131 y\u00f6netiminin oralarda romantik milliyet\u00e7i nefret do\u011furdu\u011fu bir ger\u00e7ek. Ancak bu; Bulgar k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn, dilinin ve\u00a0<b>Bulgaristan<\/b>&#8216;\u0131n bir \u00fclke olarak karakterlerinin Osmanl\u0131 idaresi s\u00fcresince m\u00fckemmel olarak korundu\u011fu ger\u00e7e\u011fini engellemiyor. Bu c\u00fcmle bana kar\u015f\u0131 bir diplomatik \u015fikayete sebep oldu.&#8221; \u015feklinde konu\u015ftu.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>OSMANLI DEVLET\u0130, HERKES\u0130N AYNI T\u0130P OLMASI \u0130\u00c7\u0130N DAYATMADI<\/b><\/div>\n<div>Osmanl\u0131 Devleti&#8217;nin klasik d\u00f6neme g\u00f6re \u00e7ok modern bir siyasi yap\u0131ya sahip olmas\u0131n\u0131n ilgisini \u00e7ekti\u011fini kaydeden Prof.\u00a0<b>Miguel<\/b>\u00a0Angel de Bunes Ibarra, &#8220;Kanuni S\u00fcleyman, Selim, II. Selim, III. Murad&#8217;\u0131n zaman\u0131ndaki politik yap\u0131 \u00e7ok moderndi. Bu ayn\u0131 zamanda\u00a0<b>Avrupa<\/b>&#8216;daki mevcut siyasi yap\u0131y\u0131 da k\u0131r\u0131yordu. Ger\u00e7ekte\u00a0<b>Roma<\/b>d\u00fcnyas\u0131n\u0131n organizasyon \u015femalar\u0131na geri d\u00f6n\u00fcyordu. Topraklar direkt sultan\u0131n olmay\u0131p sultan\u0131n emri alt\u0131ndaki farkl\u0131 yap\u0131lardaki kurulu\u015flara aitti. ve bu \u00e7ok esnek bir yap\u0131.&#8221; yorumunu yapt\u0131.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\u0130spanyol Profes\u00f6r, s\u00f6zlerine \u015fu \u015fekilde devam etti: &#8220;Ayr\u0131ca\u00a0<b>Avrupa<\/b>\u00a0d\u00fcnyas\u0131nda o zamanlar \u00fclke ba\u015ftan sona ayn\u0131 olacak \u015fekilde devletler olu\u015fturuluyordu. Yani t\u00fcm vatanda\u015flar\u0131n, kendisini y\u00f6neten kral gibi olmas\u0131 gerekiyordu. Mesela bu<b>Almanya<\/b>&#8216;daki dinler sava\u015f\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131kl\u0131yor. Bir b\u00f6lgedeki prensin nas\u0131l olmas\u0131 gerekti\u011fini belirliyor; Protestan veya Katolik.\u00a0<b>Osmanl\u0131 \u0130mparatorlu\u011fu<\/b>\u00a0bunu mesele etmiyor ve teban\u0131n kim oldu\u011funa \u00f6nem vermeyip imparatorlu\u011fun idaresi i\u00e7in yararl\u0131 olana \u00f6nem veriyor ve siyasi birlik olu\u015fturuyor. Bu a\u00e7\u0131dan bu yap\u0131 \u00e7ok ak\u0131ll\u0131ca ve modern.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div>Osmanl\u0131&#8217;n\u0131n ekonomik temellerinin o kadar sa\u011flam olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve en b\u00fcy\u00fck hatas\u0131n\u0131n da bu oldu\u011funu savunan Ibarra, &#8220;Daha sonra sistemin yozla\u015fmas\u0131 ve her \u015feyden \u00f6te imparatorlu\u011fun\u00a0<b>Cezayir<\/b>,\u00a0<b>Bulgaristan<\/b>,\u00a0<b>Bosna<\/b>\u00a0gibi farkl\u0131 bir\u00e7ok b\u00f6lgesindeki ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131k s\u00fcre\u00e7leri T\u00fcrkler hakk\u0131nda kara efsane do\u011furuyor ve bu halen devam ediyor. Osmanl\u0131 devleti hakk\u0131nda hakim olan g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fler genelde negatif ama bu ger\u00e7ek de\u011fil ve hele hele 16. ve 17. y\u00fczy\u0131llar\u0131na bakacak olursak Osmanl\u0131 \u00e7ok ciddi ve \u00e7ok ilgi \u00e7ekici bir konu. Belki 18. y\u00fczy\u0131ldan sonras\u0131n\u0131 tart\u0131\u015fabiliriz.&#8221; diye konu\u015ftu.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>\u0130SPANYOLLAR T\u00dcRKLERLE ARAPLARI AYIRT EDEM\u0130YOR<\/b><\/div>\n<div>\u0130spanya&#8217;daki Osmanl\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131na dair bilgi veren Profes\u00f6r\u00a0<b>Miguel<\/b>\u00a0Angel de Bunes Ibarra, &#8220;\u0130spanya&#8217;da Osmanl\u0131 \u00e7al\u0131\u015fmalar\u0131 neredeyse yok. Osmanl\u0131 tarihi \u00fczerine uzman yok ve T\u00fcrk\u00e7e bilen insan da yok. Yava\u015f yava\u015f ilgi art\u0131yor ama ne yaz\u0131k ki hi\u00e7bir \u0130spanyol \u00fcniversitesinde Osmanl\u0131 tarihi \u00fczerine ders yok. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc burada 10 sene \u00f6ncesine kadar Osmanl\u0131 ve T\u00fcrk tarihi sadece hikayelerden olu\u015fuyordu. \u0130spanyollar\u0131n ilgisi daha \u00e7ok\u00a0<b>\u0130spanya<\/b>\u00a0ve yak\u0131n\u00a0<b>Avrupa<\/b>&#8216;ya y\u00f6nelik.<b>T\u00fcrkiye<\/b>, do\u011fu olmasa da, bize g\u00f6re do\u011fuda oldu\u011fu i\u00e7in oras\u0131 fanteziler d\u00fcnyas\u0131 vs. miti devam ediyor.&#8221; dedi.<\/div>\n<div>\u0130spanyollar\u0131n son d\u00f6nemlerde d\u00f6ner kebap ve spor sayesinde\u00a0<b>T\u00fcrkiye<\/b>&#8216;yi tan\u0131maya ba\u015flad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 aktaran Ibarra \u015funlar\u0131 s\u00f6yledi: &#8220;\u0130spanya&#8217;daki ders kitaplar\u0131nda Osmanl\u0131lar k\u00f6t\u00fc adamlar olarak \u00f6\u011fretiliyor. Osmanl\u0131 do\u011fu olarak kabul edildi\u011fi i\u00e7in ders kitaplar\u0131nda \u00e7ok ge\u00e7miyor ve bilenler de \u0130nebaht\u0131 Sava\u015f\u0131&#8217;ndan dolay\u0131 biliyor. ve o sava\u015fta iyiler biziz ve T\u00fcrkler k\u00f6t\u00fc. \u0130spanyollar bir Arap M\u00fcsl\u00fcman ile T\u00fcrk\u00fc ay\u0131rt edemiyor. \u0130spanyol k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcnde, dini ile ulusal kimli\u011fi \u00f6zde\u015fle\u015ftirme e\u011filimi var. Son zamanlarda d\u00f6ner kebap sayesinde biraz fark etmeye ba\u015flad\u0131lar. Turizm, futbol ve basketbol da \u0130spanyollar\u0131n T\u00fcrkleri Araplardan ay\u0131rt etmesine b\u00fcy\u00fck katk\u0131s\u0131 oldu.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><b>BEYAZ KABLO \u00dcRETEN FABR\u0130KA KAPANDI<\/b><\/div>\n<div>Profes\u00f6r Ibarra, \u0130slam tarihi \u00fczerinde \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131rken bir\u00e7ok ar\u015fivin Osmanl\u0131ca oldu\u011funu g\u00f6rm\u00fc\u015f ve daha sonra Osmanl\u0131ca ve T\u00fcrk\u00e7e \u00f6\u011frenmeye karar vermi\u015f. Dil \u00f6\u011frenmek i\u00e7in\u00a0<b>T\u00fcrkiye<\/b>&#8216;de yakla\u015f\u0131k 4 sene kalan\u00a0<b>Miguel<\/b>\u00a0Angel Ibarra, &#8220;Oraya giden \u0130spanyollar T\u00fcrk dostu oluyor ve buraya gelen T\u00fcrkler de ayn\u0131 \u015fekilde<b>\u0130spanya<\/b>\u00a0dostu oluyor.&#8221; de\u011ferlendirmesinde bulundu.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>&#8220;T\u00fcrklere ra\u011fmen\u00a0<b>T\u00fcrkiye<\/b>&#8216;yi \u00e7ok seviyorum.&#8221; diyen Profes\u00f6r \u0130barra g\u00fclerek ba\u015f\u0131ndan ge\u00e7en bir hadiseyi \u015f\u00f6yle anlatt\u0131: &#8220;Bir keresinde elektrik kablolar\u0131nda ar\u0131za \u00e7\u0131km\u0131\u015ft\u0131 ve bir elektrik tamircisi geldi. Elinde sar\u0131 kablo vard\u0131 ve ben &#8220;beyaz var m\u0131?&#8221; diye sordum. O da, &#8220;Hay\u0131r, beyaz kablo \u00fcreten fabrika kapand\u0131.&#8221; cevab\u0131n\u0131 verdi. Nas\u0131l b\u00f6yle bir bir \u015feye inanmam\u0131 beklersin? Bu tipik T\u00fcrk hareketi.&#8221;<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Galatasaray taraftar\u0131 olan \u0130spanyol akademisyen,\u00a0<b>T\u00fcrkiye<\/b>\u00a0ile\u00a0<b>\u0130spanya<\/b>\u00a0aras\u0131ndaki benzerliklere dikkati \u00e7ekerek, &#8220;Her iki \u00fclkede de g\u00fcne\u015f var ve neredeyse t\u00fcm<b>Avrupa<\/b>&#8216;n\u0131n ya\u015fl\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131 bar\u0131nd\u0131r\u0131yoruz. \u0130ki \u00fclkeye gelen Avrupal\u0131lar gibi, bu \u00fclkelerin insanlar\u0131 da \u0131rk\u00e7\u0131l\u0131ktan uzak, yemekleri g\u00fczel, futbolda ve teniste yendi\u011fimizde gururlan\u0131yoruz. Sonra da t\u00fcm g\u00fcn kendimizi ele\u015ftirmekle ge\u00e7iriyoruz.&#8221; de\u011ferlendirmesini yapt\u0131.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>\u0130spanya&#8217;n\u0131n prestijli CSIC (Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Cientificas) ara\u015ft\u0131rma kurumunda g\u00f6revli Profes\u00f6r\u00a0<b>Miguel<\/b>\u00a0Angel de Bunes Ibarra&#8217;n\u0131n, 16. y\u00fczy\u0131l yazarlar\u0131n\u0131n Osmanl\u0131 hakk\u0131ndaki d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnceleri \u00fczerine yazd\u0131\u011f\u0131 en son kitab\u0131 yak\u0131nda Oxford yay\u0131nlar\u0131ndan \u00e7\u0131kacak.<\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div><\/div>\n<div>Cihan Haber Ajans\u0131<\/div>\n<div id=\"bghab-3632999825\" class=\"bghab-yazi-altinda bghab-entity-placement\"><div class=\"bghab-adlabel\">Reklamlar<\/div><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- bghaber-yaz\u0131-sonu -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"4222328180\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script><\/div><br style=\"clear: both; display: block; float: none;\"\/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>\u0130spanya&#8217;da Osmanl\u0131 tarihi \u00fczerine \u00e7al\u0131\u015fan say\u0131l\u0131 akademisyenlerden Prof. Dr.Miguel\u00a0Angel de Bunes Ibarra, Osmanl\u0131&#8217;y\u0131 savundu\u011fu gerek\u00e7esiyle Bulgar h\u00fck\u00fcmetinin kendisine \u00fclkeye giri\u015f yasa\u011f\u0131 koydu\u011funu a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":29,"featured_media":7186,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[4],"tags":[30,126],"class_list":["post-7185","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-siyaset","tag-bulgaristan","tag-osmanli"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/10\/Osmanli_armasi.png?fit=1000%2C1250&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pc2PfJ-1RT","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7185","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/29"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=7185"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/7185\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/7186"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=7185"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=7185"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=7185"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}