{"id":4382,"date":"2013-07-26T19:12:46","date_gmt":"2013-07-26T16:12:46","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/bghaber.org\/bghaber\/?p=4382"},"modified":"2019-07-18T23:40:16","modified_gmt":"2019-07-18T21:40:16","slug":"majesteleri-soruyor-biz-kim-ve-ne-oluyoruz","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/majesteleri-soruyor-biz-kim-ve-ne-oluyoruz\/","title":{"rendered":"Majesteleri soruyor: &#8220;Biz kim ve ne oluyoruz&#8221;"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Bu s\u0131cak ve ho\u015fg\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fck dolu Ramazan ay\u0131nda bile tepemi att\u0131rd\u0131lar.Serhat \u015fehrimiz Edirne&#8217;de ismi pek bilinmeyen &#8220;T\u00fcrkiye ve Balkan \u00dclkeleri Dostluk K\u00fclt\u00fcr Ekonomik \u0130\u015fbirli\u011fi&#8221; ad\u0131nda bir dernek var. Bug\u00fcnlerde ba\u015fkan\u0131 Sami G\u00fcltekin yaz\u0131l\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131klamada bulundu. <!--more--><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_1585\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1585\" style=\"width: 150px\" class=\"wp-caption alignright\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/images2.jpg\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-thumbnail wp-image-1585\" alt=\"M\u00fcmin Top\u00e7u\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/images2-150x150.jpg?resize=150%2C150\" width=\"150\" height=\"150\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/images2.jpg?resize=150%2C150&amp;ssl=1 150w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/images2.jpg?resize=65%2C65&amp;ssl=1 65w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 150px) 100vw, 150px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-1585\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">M\u00fcmin Top\u00e7u<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Orijinal metinden baz\u0131 kesitleri dikkatinize sunuyorum;<\/p>\n<p>&#8220;Bu soyda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n tamam\u0131na T\u00fcrk (M\u00fcsl\u00fcman isimleri ile) T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti vatanda\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131 verildi. Tamam\u0131n\u0131n i\u015fe yerle\u015fmesi sa\u011fland\u0131, ev sahibi yap\u0131ld\u0131. Yetmedi, yine bunlar\u0131n tamam\u0131na \u00e7ifte vatanda\u015fl\u0131k hakk\u0131 tan\u0131nd\u0131. Bulgaristan vatanda\u015f\u0131 da kabul edilerek Bulgaristan da ki haklar\u0131na da sahip olmalar\u0131 sa\u011fland\u0131. Daha sonra Bulgaristan da rejim de\u011fi\u015fikli\u011fi oldu. Bulgaristan h\u00fck\u00fcmeti zorla isimleri de\u011fi\u015ftirilen T\u00fcrk as\u0131ll\u0131 M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlara ba\u011fl\u0131 olduklar\u0131 belediyelere bir dilek\u00e7e ile ba\u015fvurmalar\u0131 halinde eski isimleri iade edildi. Ba\u015fkan G\u00fcltekin konu\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131n devam\u0131nda, \u201cB\u00f6yle bir imk\u00e2nlar\u0131 olmalar\u0131na ra\u011fmen, ne yaz\u0131k ki T\u00fcrkiye ye g\u00f6\u00e7 edip \u00e7ifte vatanda\u015f olan \u00e7ok az say\u0131da soyda\u015f\u0131m\u0131z; kendilerine zorla verilen Bulgar (Hristiyan) isimlerinden vazge\u00e7ip T\u00fcrk (M\u00fcsl\u00fcman) adlar\u0131n\u0131 ald\u0131lar. Bulgaristan dan 1989 senesi ve sonras\u0131 T\u00fcrkiye ye g\u00f6\u00e7 eden soyda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fu T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de s\u00f6zde M\u00fcsl\u00fcman oluyorlar. Bulgaristan&#8217;a gittiklerinde s\u00f6zde (Hristiyan) oluyorlar. Bize g\u00f6re bunlar\u0131n ne olduklar\u0131 belli de\u011fil. Bu ki\u015filerin \u00e7ifte isim kullanmalar\u0131 hukuki y\u00f6nden de sak\u0131ncal\u0131 oldu\u011funu d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcyoruz? D\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn\u00fcz. T\u00fcrkiye de T\u00fcrk vatanda\u015f\u0131 olarak (T\u00fcrk M\u00fcsl\u00fcman) ismi ile bir su\u00e7tan dolay\u0131 aranan ki\u015finin Bulgar kimli\u011fi ile dola\u015faca\u011f\u0131ndan yakalanamaz. Yine bu ki\u015fi, Bulgaristan\u2019da Bulgar vatanda\u015f\u0131 olarak bir su\u00e7tan sab\u0131kas\u0131 bulunsa, aran\u0131r olsa, bu sefer T\u00fcrk kimli\u011fi (M\u00fcsl\u00fcman ad\u0131) ile dola\u015fabilece\u011finden yakalanamaz. T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti h\u00fck\u00fcmetine ve Bulgaristan Cumhuriyeti h\u00fck\u00fcmetlerine sesleniyorum. Art\u0131k bu \u00e7ifte ruhlu insanlar\u0131n, \u00e7ifte isim kullanmalar\u0131na son vermelidirler. Biz bu soyda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n Hristiyan ad\u0131 kullanmalar\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 de\u011filiz. Yeter ki ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i olsunlar ikiy\u00fczl\u00fcl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc b\u0131raks\u0131nlar. M\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar her yerde T\u00fcrk (M\u00fcsl\u00fcman) ad\u0131n\u0131 kullans\u0131nlar. Hristiyanlar her yerde Bulgar (Hristiyan) ad\u0131n\u0131 kullans\u0131nlar. \u00c7ifte isim kullanan b\u00fct\u00fcn soyda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131za da sesleniyoruz. \u00c7ifte isim kullanma yanl\u0131\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan vazge\u00e7ip ger\u00e7e\u011fe d\u00f6n\u00fcn\u00fcz diyoruz. Di\u011fer taraftan \u00e7ifte isim kullanan soyda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n AB \u00fclkeleri i\u00e7in de sorun olaca\u011f\u0131 mutlakt\u0131r. H\u00fck\u00fcmetimizden; \u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131za, T\u00fcrkiye\u2019de ve yabanc\u0131 \u00fclkelerde \u00e7ifte isim ile dola\u015fan soyda\u015flar\u0131m\u0131z ile ilgili verdi\u011fimiz yaz\u0131l\u0131 dilek\u00e7eye istinaden gere\u011finin yap\u0131lmas\u0131n\u0131 bekliyoruz.&#8221; BU SATIRLARI KALEME ALAN dostluk ve k\u00fclt\u00fcr dene\u011fi ba\u015fkan\u0131d\u0131r. Bulgaristan&#8217;daki eski totaliter sistemin &#8220;isim vakas\u0131&#8221; hala g\u00fcndemden d\u00fc\u015fmemekte. Zoraki ve tasvip edicek yan\u0131 bulunmayan vukuat\u0131n \u00e7oktan kimlik ve pasaportlar\u0131m\u0131zdan belgeli izi yok edilmeliydi. Benim de bu konuda onlarca yaz\u0131m var, fakat insan\u0131m\u0131za bu \u00e7irkef bir yakla\u015f\u0131m\u0131 asla do\u011fru bulmuyorum. B\u00f6yle bir \u00e7\u0131k\u0131\u015ftan sonra yaln\u0131z bu dernek ve y\u00f6netimi kaybeder. Bu \u015fu\u011fursuzca a\u00e7\u0131klamadan sonra ben suskun kalamam; 1. S\u00f6z edilen g\u00f6\u00e7menlerin tamam\u0131 i\u015fe yerle\u015ftirilmedi, ev sahibi de yap\u0131lmad\u0131. Do\u011frudur, baz\u0131lar\u0131na i\u015f konusunda yard\u0131mc\u0131 olundu. D\u00fcnya Bankas\u0131n\u0131n katk\u0131lar\u0131yla bir \u00e7ok yerle\u015fim yerinde G\u00f6\u00e7men konutlar\u0131 in\u015fa edildi. \u00d6nceden, bunlar i\u00e7in g\u00f6\u00e7menlerden toplanan paralar\u0131n bir k\u0131sm\u0131 \u00e7ar\u00e7ur edildi ve binlerce insan\u0131m\u0131z ma\u011fdur oldu. T\u00fcrkiye vatanda\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131na ge\u00e7en b\u00fct\u00fcn g\u00f6\u00e7menlerin ayn\u0131 zamanda Bulgaristan vatanda\u015fl\u0131klar\u0131 da korunmaktad\u0131r. Yeniden Bulgaristana&#8217;a gidilipte \u00e7ifte vatanda\u015f olunmaz. Birle\u015fmi\u015f Milletler \u00d6rg\u00fct\u00fc&#8217;n\u00fcn bir antla\u015fmas\u0131na g\u00f6re her insan\u0131n en az iki \u00fclkeye vatanda\u015f olma hakk\u0131 tan\u0131nmaktad\u0131r. T\u00fcrkiye Cumhuriyeti, Bulgaristan vatanda\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve bu husutan do\u011fan hak ve haklar do\u011frultusunda bir \u015fey sa\u011flam\u0131\u015f de\u011fildir, g\u00f6revi de bu de\u011fildir. Eh, bu \u00e7ifte vatanda\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131 k\u0131skananalar, yok da de\u011fil&#8230; 2. Eski isimlerin iade konusuna gelince. Bu i\u015f ba\u015f\u0131ndan beri \u00f6yle basit bir i\u015flem olmad\u0131, belediyeler de kimsenin ismini iade etmedi. Ben \u015fahsen ilk ismini de\u011fi\u015ftirenlerden birisiyim ve bu i\u015flem adliyede haloldu, savc\u0131n\u0131n ve hakimin huzuruna \u00e7\u0131kmadan ger\u00e7ekle\u015fmedi. G\u00f6\u00e7men \u00e7o\u011funlu\u011fu yolunu bulup ger\u00e7ek isimlerine \u00e7oktan kavu\u015ftu. Ba\u015fka b\u00fcy\u00fck bir kesim ise hi\u00e7 bir zaman terketti\u011fi Bulgaristan&#8217;a gitme f\u0131rsat\u0131 yakalayamad\u0131 ve evrak \u00fczerine olan zorunlu isim lekesini temizleyemedi. Di\u011fer bir kesim ise bu i\u015flemi hala umursamamakta ve T\u00fcrkl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcne leke d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcrmeye devam etmekte. Bulgaristan T\u00fcrkleri, dini inan\u00e7 ve duygular\u0131n\u0131 zedelemeye kalk\u0131\u015fanlara asla taviz vermez. T\u00fcrkiye&#8217;de s\u00f6zde m\u00fcsl\u00fcmanlar ya\u015fayabilir, G\u00fcltekin de bunlardan olabilir, fakat Bulgaristan&#8217;dan gelen g\u00f6\u00e7menler burada m\u00fcsl\u00fcman olmuyorlar, onlar zaten atadan ve deden kalma m\u00fcsl\u00fcman inanc\u0131n\u0131 ta\u015f\u0131maktad\u0131rlar. G\u00fcya Bulgaristan&#8217;a gittiklerinde ise hristiyan oluyorlarm\u0131\u015f&#8230; Bence, bu sa\u00e7mal\u0131\u011fa yorum bile gerekmez. K\u00fcfretmeye de de\u011fmez.Do\u011fru,bu G\u00fcltekin&#8217;in ne oldu\u011fu bu yaz\u0131s\u0131ndan sonra belli oluyor. O ise hala bizim kim ve ne oldu\u011fumuz \u00fczerine kafa patlatmakta, ama ayn\u0131 zamanda bizim nam\u0131m\u0131za dernek kurmaktan \u00e7ekinmiyor,hatta ahkam kesmeye bile kalk\u0131\u015fmakta. 3. Koskoca iki devlet resmi yetkilileri bu \u00e7ifte vatanda\u015fl\u0131k ve isim konusunda bir hukuki sak\u0131nca g\u00f6rmemi\u015fler, ama Edirne&#8217;deki ismi bilinmeyen ve k\u00fc\u00e7\u00fcc\u00fck bir dernek bunu sak\u0131ncal\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fcyor, hatta bu insanlar\u0131n kim ve ne oldu\u011funu bile bilmiyor. Herhalde uzaydan d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015f bunlar. T\u00fcrk ve Bulgar polisi i\u015fini bilir, \u00f6yle \u00e7ifte pasaport ve kimlik oyunuyla bunlar\u0131 aldatan olmad\u0131 daha. Ayr\u0131ca insan\u0131m\u0131z \u00e7ifte ruh ta\u015f\u0131makla su\u00e7lan\u0131yor bu \u015fa\u015fk\u0131n ba\u015fkan taraf\u0131ndan. \u00c7ifte vatanda\u015f olunabiliyor, baz\u0131lar\u0131n\u0131n \u00e7ifte ismi de var hala, ama ben \u00e7ifte ruhun ne oldu\u011funu bilmiyorum. Diyanet \u0130\u015feri Ba\u015fkanl\u0131\u011f\u0131na bunu sormam\u0131z \u015fart oluyor. Majesteleri hristiyan ad\u0131 kullan\u0131m\u0131na kar\u015f\u0131 de\u011filmi\u015f, ger\u00e7ek\u00e7ilikten yana tav\u0131r koyuyor, ikiy\u00fczl\u00fcl\u00fc\u011f\u00fc b\u0131raks\u0131nlar diyor. Bir insan\u0131n iki farkl\u0131 isim kullan\u0131lmas\u0131na biz de kar\u015f\u0131y\u0131z,fakat bu nasihat,ancak kar\u015f\u0131 taraf\u0131n g\u00f6nl\u00fcn\u00fc k\u0131rmadan ve incitmeden s\u00f6ylenmeli. 4. Ba\u015fkan hazretleri; &#8220;\u00c7ifte isim kullanma yanl\u0131\u015fl\u0131\u011f\u0131ndan vazge\u00e7ip ger\u00e7e\u011fe d\u00f6n\u00fcn\u00fcz diyor.&#8221; Bunun yaz\u0131lmas\u0131 \u00e7ok basit ve kolay,ama benim Bursa&#8217;daki 87 ya\u015f\u0131ndaki hasta Hanife teyzem, ya da Ankara&#8217;daki 96 ya\u015f\u0131ndaki Haz\u0131m eni\u015ftem nas\u0131l bu yanl\u0131\u015fl\u0131ktan d\u00f6ns\u00fcnler, kendilerinin soka\u011fa \u00e7\u0131kma g\u00fc\u00e7leri bile yok. Bu i\u015fe nice Balg\u00f6\u00e7&#8217;ler ve ba\u015fka dernekler \u015fimdiye kadar \u00e7\u00f6zemedi, fakat ben art\u0131k \u00fcmitliyim, \u00e7\u00fcnk\u00fc Edirne&#8217;de, orda uzakta bir dernek var ve onun becerikli ba\u015fkan\u0131 bu i\u015fi en yak\u0131n zamanda k\u00f6k\u00fcnden \u00e7\u00f6zecek. H\u00fck\u00fcmetimize ve \u0130\u00e7i\u015fleri Bakanl\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131za, kendisi yaz\u0131l\u0131 dilek\u00e7e g\u00f6ndermi\u015f. \u0130n\u015fallah, \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fcl\u00fcr! Ama ayn\u0131 makamlar\u0131n bu derne\u011fimizi kapatma ihtimalleri de yok de\u011fil&#8230;<\/p>\n<div id=\"bghab-4248533815\" class=\"bghab-yazi-altinda bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- bghaber-yaz\u0131-sonu -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"4222328180\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script><\/div><br style=\"clear: both; display: block; float: none;\"\/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Bu s\u0131cak ve ho\u015fg\u00f6r\u00fcl\u00fck dolu Ramazan ay\u0131nda bile tepemi att\u0131rd\u0131lar.Serhat \u015fehrimiz Edirne&#8217;de ismi pek bilinmeyen &#8220;T\u00fcrkiye ve Balkan \u00dclkeleri Dostluk K\u00fclt\u00fcr Ekonomik \u0130\u015fbirli\u011fi&#8221; ad\u0131nda bir<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":29,"featured_media":1585,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"jetpack_seo_schema_type":"","_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_feature_clip_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-4382","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-yorum"],"jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pc2PfJ-18G","jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2013\/05\/images2.jpg?fit=256%2C153&ssl=1","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4382","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/29"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=4382"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/4382\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/1585"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=4382"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=4382"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=4382"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}