{"id":35700,"date":"2019-04-18T15:49:34","date_gmt":"2019-04-18T12:49:34","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/?p=35700"},"modified":"2019-06-24T20:12:40","modified_gmt":"2019-06-24T17:12:40","slug":"yunanistanda-makedon-nufus-var-mi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/yunanistanda-makedon-nufus-var-mi\/","title":{"rendered":"Yunanistan\u2019da Makedon N\u00fcfus var m\u0131?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Dil meselesi<br \/>\nTarih: 18 Nisan 2019<br \/>\nTercume: Raziye \u00c7AKIR<br \/>\nKonu<strong>:\u00a0 Yunanistan Makedon dilini neden yasakl\u0131yor?<\/strong><strong>\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Yunanistan Kuzey Makedonya ismine al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor, 2019\/2020 ders y\u0131l\u0131nda Makedonya\u2019n\u0131n yeni ad\u0131 ders kitaplar\u0131na girecek. \u015eimdi yeni bir tart\u0131\u015fma konusu a\u00e7\u0131ld\u0131<strong>: Yunanistan\u2019da Makedon n\u00fcfus ya\u015f\u0131yor mu ya\u015fam\u0131yor mu<\/strong>?<\/p>\n<p>Y\u0131llar \u00f6nce Yunanistan\u2019da Bulgar n\u00fcfus ya\u015f\u0131yor mu, Bulgaristan\u2019da da Yunan n\u00fcfus var m\u0131 tart\u0131\u015fmas\u0131 yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Olay mahkemelik olmu\u015ftu ve hatta uluslararas\u0131 mahkemeye ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131 ve ard\u0131ndan da n\u00fcfus de\u011fi\u015fimi yap\u0131ld\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><b style=\"color: #ff0000;\">\u015eimdi de benzer bir olay ya\u015fan\u0131yor. <\/b><span style=\"color: #ff0000;\"><b>Yunanistan&#8217;da ya\u015fayan<\/b><\/span><b style=\"color: #ff0000;\">\u00a0Makedonlara \u0130slam-Makedon diyorlar. Mahkeme b\u00f6yle bir kimli\u011fin olup olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131 g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcyor.<\/b><\/span> Davaya SERES Belediye Mahkemesinde bak\u0131l\u0131yor. Adalet binas\u0131 polis kordonu alt\u0131nda, etraf k\u00f6ylerden kendilerini Makedon sayan n\u00fcfus \u015fehri i\u015fgal etmi\u015f. Yunan Makedonlara \u201c<strong>dopia<\/strong>\u201d deniyormu\u015f. \u201c<strong>Dopia<\/strong>\u201d T\u00fcrk\u00e7emizde \u201c<strong>memleketli<\/strong>\u201d, \u201c<strong>hem\u015feri<\/strong>\u201d anlam\u0131nda, hani biz tan\u0131\u015f\u0131rken \u201c<strong>karde\u015f memleket nere<\/strong>?\u201d deriz ya, \u00f6yle bir \u015fey. Burada yerli halk hangi k\u00f6yde ve y\u00f6rede hangi milletten insanlar ya\u015fad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 bildi\u011finden dolay\u0131, etnik veya milli az\u0131nl\u0131k, halk a\u011fz\u0131nda hem\u015fehrilikle \u00e7\u00f6z\u00fclm\u00fc\u015f.<\/p>\n<p>Konu\u015ftuklar\u0131 dile de \u0130slav-Makedon a\u011f\u0131z\u0131 tan\u0131m\u0131 getirilmi\u015f. Bu leh\u00e7eyi konu\u015fanlar da, yaz\u0131l\u0131 kay\u0131tl\u0131 olmasa da, halk aras\u0131nda yerliler taraf\u0131ndan \u0130slav-Makedon az\u0131nl\u0131k olarak kabul edilmi\u015f.<\/p><div id=\"bghab-2049495643\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>Bu yerel ger\u00e7e\u011fi kabul etmeyen Atina h\u00fckumetinin bu konudaki tavr\u0131 sert. \u201cBi Bi Si\u201d radyosu bu konuda yay\u0131n yapt\u0131. Bu az\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u201c<strong>Makedon \u0130slavlar\u0131 ve Yunanistan\u2019da Yok Say\u0131lan Az\u0131nl\u0131k<\/strong>\u201d olarak anlatt\u0131. Yunanistan\u2019da \u201c<strong>az\u0131nl\u0131klar<\/strong>\u201d konusunu konu\u015fmak yasak. Fakat Bi Bi Si perdeyi kald\u0131rd\u0131. Bir\u00e7ok siyaset\u00e7ide nefret uyand\u0131rd\u0131. Londra\u2019daki Yunan B\u00fcy\u00fckel\u00e7i Dimitris Karam\u0131tsos \u2013 Tsiros Bi Bi Ci\u2019ye bir mektup g\u00f6nderdi, \u201c<strong>tarihi \u00e7arp\u0131t\u0131yorsunuz<\/strong>\u201d dedi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Bu arada Yunanistan&#8217;daki Makedon n\u00fcfusun \u015fiddetlenen bask\u0131 alt\u0131nda tutuldu\u011fu ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>SERES mahkemesinde, \u0130slav-Makedon danslar\u0131 oynamak ve Makedon \u015fark\u0131lar\u0131 s\u00f6ylemek isteyen bir yerel k\u00fclt\u00fcr derne\u011fi davas\u0131 da g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcld\u00fc. Yunanistan\u2019da \u00fclke tarihinden pek ho\u015f olmayan bir sayfa a\u00e7\u0131l\u0131yor. 1950 y\u0131l\u0131nda Yunan h\u00fck\u00fcmeti \u0130slav-Makedon az\u0131nl\u0131\u011fa liddetli bask\u0131 uygulam\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Mahkemede anlat\u0131lanlardan bir par\u00e7a: \u201c<strong>1959 k\u00f6y\u00fcm\u00fcze silahl\u0131 askerler geldi. Bizim hepimizi anadilimizde konu\u015fmayaca\u011f\u0131m\u0131za yemin ettirdiler.<\/strong>\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Bu arada, korkan k\u00f6yl\u00fcler \u0130slam \u2013 Makedon k\u00f6klerinden s\u00f6z edemediler. Ka\u00e7 ki\u015fi olduklar\u0131n\u0131 da bilmiyorlar. Kaba hesap onlardan 7 bin se\u00e7men var. Ne ki, Kuzey Makedonya\u2019da k\u00fclt\u00fcrlerine ba\u011fl\u0131 ya\u015fayan b\u00fcy\u00fck say\u0131da n\u00fcfus var.\u201d \u2013 bunlar\u0131 anlatan \u201c<strong>Oranio Tokso<\/strong>\u201d partisi \u00fcyesi Evageliya Apsis\u2019tir. O, \u0130slav-Makedon az\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131n k\u00fclt\u00fcrel haklar\u0131n\u0131n tan\u0131nmas\u0131n\u0131 istiyor.<\/p>\n<p>Yunan h\u00fck\u00fcmetine vergi \u00f6deyen bu vatanda\u015flar \u201c<strong>ancak ve yaln\u0131z k\u00fclt\u00fcrel kimliklerini ya\u015fatmak<\/strong>\u201d istiyorlar. Bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fc payla\u015fansa, duru\u015fmaya kat\u0131lan Nikos Sakelaros\u2019dur.<\/p><div id=\"bghab-3312596599\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-10-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Duru\u015fma salonunda hangi dilde konu\u015fuyorsunuz?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>San\u0131klar ad\u0131na ifade veren bir dil uzman\u0131 ile savc\u0131l\u0131k aras\u0131nda tart\u0131\u015fma y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcl\u00fcyor. Dil uzman\u0131 \u201cdopia\u201d n\u0131n \u0130slam-Makedon dili anlam\u0131nda kullan\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 anlat\u0131yor. Savc\u0131l\u0131k uzman\u0131, y\u00f6resel ger\u00e7eklik \u00fcst\u00fcne yeterli bilgi sahibi olmamakla su\u00e7luyor. Sert tart\u0131\u015fma y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcl\u00fcyor. Polis salonda bulunan islav-Makedon grubu \u00e7ember i\u00e7ine al\u0131yor. Savunma av. Kostas Demelis Kuzey Yunanistan\u2019da\u00a0 \u201c<strong>dopia<\/strong>\u201d denince \u0130slav-Makedon dili anla\u015f\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131kl\u0131yor. Fakat mahkeme ba\u015fkan\u0131 avukat\u0131n bu tezi kan\u0131tlamas\u0131na imkan tan\u0131m\u0131yor. Yarg\u0131\u00e7, SERES\u2019te konu\u015fulan dilin hangisidir, diye sordu. Tan\u0131klar Yunanca diye cevap veriyor. Ana konuya cevap veremiyorlar. Toplumda korku var. \u0130slav-Makedon k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fc Yunan k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fcn\u00fcn bir par\u00e7as\u0131ym\u0131\u015f gibi g\u00f6sterme \u00e7abalar\u0131 seziliyor.<\/p>\n<p>Nikos Sakelari\u0131s payla\u015f\u0131yor: \u201c<strong>Benin dedem, dedemin dedesi ve onun atalar\u0131 herhangi bir yerden gelen g\u00f6\u00e7ebeler de\u011fildir. Okul kitaplar\u0131nda ve sosyal medyada bu anlat\u0131lm\u0131yor. Yunanistan\u2019da yeni tarih ele\u015ftirel ele al\u0131nm\u0131yor<\/strong>!\u201d<\/p>\n<p><strong>Yunanistan\u2019da az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131n hukuksal durumu:<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Duru\u015fmaya kat\u0131lanlardan biri olan, Selanikli \u0130nsan Haklar\u0131 Uzman\u0131 Konstantinos Tsetselikis \u015funlar\u0131 anlat\u0131yor: \u201c<strong>Yunan devleti, \u0130SLAV-MAKEDON az\u0131nl\u0131\u011f\u0131n varl\u0131\u011f\u0131na ili\u015fkin verileri kendisi a\u00e7\u0131klad\u0131. 1951 y\u0131l\u0131nda n\u00fcfus say\u0131m\u0131 yap\u0131lm\u0131\u015ft\u0131. Bu say\u0131mda \u201canadilin hangisidir?\u201d sorusu vard\u0131. Sonu\u00e7lar Kuzey Yunanistan\u2019da bir \u0130slav dili\u201d konu\u015fuldu\u011funu kan\u0131tl\u0131yor<\/strong>.\u201d<\/p><div id=\"bghab-1257614519\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-15-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>Tsitselikis, Yunanlar ile Bulgarlar aras\u0131ndan ayn\u0131 konuda daha \u00f6nce y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fclen bir tart\u0131\u015fmay\u0131 hat\u0131rlat\u0131yor. O zaman kimin az\u0131nl\u0131k oldu\u011fu saptanmak istenmi\u015fti. Konu Lahey Uluslararas\u0131 Mahkemesine ta\u015f\u0131nd\u0131. Mahkeme \u201c<strong>az\u0131nl\u0131k sorununun bir ger\u00e7ekten var olma oldu\u011funu, \u00a0bir hukuksal sorun olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131<\/strong>\u201d karara ba\u011flad\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>SERES\u2019te \u015fimdi herkes mahkemenin alaca\u011f\u0131 karar\u0131 bekliyor. Savunma av. Kostas Memelis, \u201ckarar birka\u00e7 aydan \u00f6nce \u00e7\u0131kmaz,\u201d diyor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Herkes kazanabilir.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Prespe antla\u015fmas\u0131ndan sonra, \u0130slav-Makedonlar\u0131 sorunu Yunan h\u00fckumetinin g\u00fcndemini me\u015fgul eden sorunlardan sadece biridir.\u00a0 SERES davas\u0131 ise, bu konuyu kamuoyuna ta\u015f\u0131yan davalardan sadece biridir.<\/p>\n<p>Melb\u0131rn \u00dcniversitesinden Antropolog Fabio Matioli bu konuda kamuoyuna a\u00e7\u0131k diyalog ba\u015flatmak istiyor. O, b\u00f6lgede alan ara\u015ft\u0131rmas\u0131 yapm\u0131\u015f ve \u201cYunanistan\u2019da kendilerini eskiden oldu\u011fu gibi \u015fimdi de Makedon olarak tan\u0131mlayan\u201d ki\u015filer oldu\u011funu biliyor. Onun, Yunan meslekta\u015flar\u0131 bu konuda g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f beyan etmiyorlar. Ba\u015f\u0131ma bir \u015fey gelir korkusu hakim. Matioli, onlar\u0131n suskunlu\u011funu anlamaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor, toplumun konuya \u00e7ok duyarl\u0131 yakla\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 biliyor. Ayn\u0131 zamanda, o, her ki\u015finin istedi\u011fini, istedi\u011fi dilme s\u00f6yleme hakk\u0131n\u0131 elde etmesinden, bu i\u015ften herkesin kazan\u00e7l\u0131 \u00e7\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131na inanlardan biridir.<\/p><div id=\"bghab-525673084\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-20-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>Not:\u00a0 G\u00fcney Do\u011fu Avrupa \u00fclkelerinde ya\u015fayan b\u00fct\u00fcn etnik az\u0131nl\u0131klar\u0131n kimli\u011fi tan\u0131nmal\u0131d\u0131r. Bu yaln\u0131z Bulgarlar veya \u0130slav-Makedonlar i\u00e7in ge\u00e7erli olmakla kalmay\u0131p, Bulgaristan&#8217;daki M\u00fcsl\u00fcman T\u00fcrkler, onlar\u0131n anadili, k\u00fclt\u00fcr\u00fc ve gelenekleri i\u00e7in de ge\u00e7erlidir. Balkanlarda 80\u2019den fazla etnik az\u0131nl\u0131k var ve yerel dil konu\u015fuluyor. Bunlar\u0131n hepsinin milli devlet i\u00e7inde ve \u00e7ok k\u00fclt\u00fcrl\u00fcl\u00fck ve ortak ve birlikte ya\u015famak ad\u0131na e\u015fit hakl\u0131l\u0131k ad\u0131na hak ettiklerini elde etmesi XXI. Y\u00fczy\u0131lda ka\u00e7\u0131n\u0131lmaz olmu\u015ftur. Bulgaristan M\u00fcsl\u00fcman T\u00fcrkleri Ba\u015fkanlarda Arnavutlardan sonra en b\u00fcy\u00fck M\u00fcsl\u00fcman topluluktur. Kendi dilleri, k\u00fclt\u00fcrleri, gelenekleri, dinleri, edebiyat ve k\u00fclt\u00fcrleri vard\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p>Bizi izlemeye devam ediniz, bilgilenmek isteyenleri buraya davet ediyoruz.<br \/>\nOkuyanlar mutlaka \u00e7evresi ile payla\u015fs\u0131nlar.<br \/>\nTe\u015fekk\u00fcr ederiz.<\/p>\n<div id=\"bghab-155994391\" class=\"bghab-yazi-altinda bghab-entity-placement\"><div class=\"bghab-adlabel\">Reklamlar<\/div><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- bghaber-yaz\u0131-sonu -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"4222328180\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script><\/div><br style=\"clear: both; display: block; float: none;\"\/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Dil meselesi Tarih: 18 Nisan 2019 Tercume: Raziye \u00c7AKIR Konu:\u00a0 Yunanistan Makedon dilini neden yasakl\u0131yor?\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 Yunanistan Kuzey Makedonya ismine al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor, 2019\/2020 ders y\u0131l\u0131nda Makedonya\u2019n\u0131n yeni<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":14,"featured_media":31122,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"advanced_seo_description":"","jetpack_seo_html_title":"","jetpack_seo_noindex":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":""},"categories":[6],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-35700","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-yorum"],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/06\/k%C3%BC%C3%A7%C3%BCk-vesikal%C4%B1k.jpg?fit=332%2C500&ssl=1","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"jetpack-related-posts":[],"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/pc2PfJ-9hO","_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35700","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/14"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=35700"}],"version-history":[{"count":0,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/35700\/revisions"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media\/31122"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=35700"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=35700"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=35700"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}