{"id":21528,"date":"2016-11-27T16:05:48","date_gmt":"2016-11-27T14:05:48","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/?p=21528"},"modified":"2016-11-27T16:05:48","modified_gmt":"2016-11-27T14:05:48","slug":"bulgaristanin-nato-ve-abden-bagimsiz-olabilir","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/bulgaristanin-nato-ve-abden-bagimsiz-olabilir\/","title":{"rendered":"Bulgaristan\u2019\u0131n NATO ve AB\u2019den ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131z olabilir"},"content":{"rendered":"<p><strong>Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 Radev, Bulgaristan\u2019\u0131n NATO ve AB\u2019den ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in rol oynayabilir.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/11\/rusya-bg.jpg?w=640\" alt=\"rusya-bg\" \/><\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Rusya Stratejik Casusluk Daire Ba\u015fkan\u0131 -Leonid Re\u015fetnikov <\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>BGSAM: Rusya\u2019n\u0131n Bulgaristan \u00fczerinde artan bask\u0131s\u0131na \u0131\u015f\u0131k tutan bir s\u00f6yle\u015fi. \u00c7eviridir.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Ana ba\u015fl\u0131klar:<\/em><\/p>\n<p><strong>Do\u011fan bir Bulgar yurtseveridir. Avrupa Birli\u011fi \/AB\/ ve NATO da\u011f\u0131lacak.<\/strong><\/p><div id=\"bghab-3382382625\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Bulgaristan Sosyalist Partisi Ba\u015fkan\u0131 K.Ninova bana \u201cRadev ilgin\u00e7 bir ki\u015fidir,\u201d dedi.<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Bulgaristan Bulgaristan\u2019a Rusya da Rusya\u2019ya d\u00f6ns\u00fcn. O zaman iki \u00fclke aralar\u0131nda Sovyet zaman\u0131nda oldu\u011fundan daha yak\u0131n olacakt\u0131r.<\/strong>Bu c\u00fcmleler, Bulgar gazeteci Georgi Koritarov\u2019un \u201cSerbest B\u00f6lge\u201d adl\u0131 TV program\u0131nda eski Rus casusu ve Rusya Stratejik Ara\u015ft\u0131rma Enstit\u00fcs\u00fc Ba\u015fkan\u0131\u00a0 Leonid Re\u015fetnikov\u2019la s\u00f6yle\u015fisinden al\u0131nm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov:\u00a0 <\/strong>Son g\u00fcnlerde bizde Rusya\u2019n\u0131n tutucu devrim konsepti (genel d\u00fc\u015f\u00fcnce) \u00fcst\u00fcne Ruslar\u0131n anlay\u0131\u015f\u0131 konusu ciddi ilgi uyand\u0131rd\u0131. Rusya\u2019n\u0131n tutucu devrim konsepti hangi temeller \u00fczerine bina edilmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov: Ben, Rusya Federasyonu Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 m\u00fcd\u00fcriyetine ait bir Enstit\u00fc y\u00f6netiyorum. <\/strong>Bu kurum, t\u00fcm Avrupa \u00fclkelerindeki s\u00fcre\u00e7lerin, o \u00fclkelerdeki s\u00fcre\u00e7lerin analizini yap\u0131yor. Avrupa\u2019da tutucu g\u00fc\u00e7lerin g\u00fccenmesi s\u00fcreci var. Biz Rusya\u2019da buna geleneksel g\u00fc\u00e7lerin g\u00fc\u00e7lenmesi s\u00fcreci ad\u0131n\u0131 verdik. Bu e\u011filim son 2 -3 y\u0131lda b\u00fcy\u00fcd\u00fc. Gelenekse g\u00fc\u00e7ler kavram\u0131n\u0131n bizim i\u00e7in ta\u015f\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131 anlam nedir:\u00a0 Din, gelenek, vatan, aile, \u00f6zel m\u00fclkiyet temelini \u00f6n plana \u00e7\u0131karan g\u00fc\u00e7lerdir onlar. Rusya ve di\u011fer Avrupa \u00fclkelerinin geli\u015fmesinde bu geli\u015fmeler gelenekseldir. Biz, son 100 y\u0131lda, Rusya\u2019ya dayat\u0131lan, say\u0131lar\u0131 iki olan liberal ve kom\u00fcnist y\u00f6nden farkl\u0131 bir y\u00f6nelim istiyoruz.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov: <\/strong>Buraya a\u00e7\u0131klamal\u0131 bir soru s\u0131k\u0131\u015ft\u0131ral\u0131m diyorum. Bu geleneksel devrim konseptine Do\u011fu Avrupa \u00fclkelerinde, daha do\u011frusu Balkanlarda ve Bulgaristan\u2019da bu potansiyel var m\u0131?<\/p><div id=\"bghab-3605556087\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-10-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov: <\/strong>Evet var. Mesela Macaristan\u2019da neredeyse ger\u00e7ekle\u015fti\u011fime \u015fahidiz. Bulgaristan\u2019da da b\u00f6yle bir e\u011filim var. Bulgaristan\u2019da cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 se\u00e7imlerini izlerken, ikinci turda Radev\u2019e Bulgaristan Sosyalist Partililerle birlikte, \u201cYurtsever Cephe\u201d en, sa\u011fc\u0131lardan ve Reformcu Blok\u2019tan se\u00e7menin oy verdi\u011fini g\u00f6rd\u00fck. Radev\u2019in b\u00fct\u00fcn se\u00e7im kampanyas\u0131 bu y\u00f6ndeydi ve Bulgaristan i\u00e7in gelenekler olan \u015feylere vurgu yapt\u0131 ve ideolojik g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flere az de\u011findi. Yani o Bulgar halk\u0131 i\u00e7in geleneksel olana b\u00fcy\u00fck \u00f6nem verdi. Bu da Bulgaristan\u2019da b\u00f6yle e\u011filimler oldu\u011funa i\u015faret ediyor.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov: <\/strong>Rumen Radev gibi bir ki\u015finin ya da bu geleneksel konu\u015fma bi\u00e7imine sebep olan, \u00a0bu y\u0131l\u0131n A\u011fustos ay\u0131nda Moskova\u2019da g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fc\u011f\u00fcn\u00fcz \u00f6\u011frenilen BSP Genel Sekreteri\u00a0 Kornelya Ninova \u2018n\u0131n mesajlar\u0131 size samimi gelmi\u015f olabilir mi?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov<\/strong>: Biz Bayan Ninova ile Moskova\u2019da g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fmedik, Sofya\u2019da g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fck. Yaz\u0131n g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fck. Bayan Ninova bana Radev\u2019in \u00e7ok iyi bir aday oldu\u011funu s\u00f6yledi. Ba\u015fka bir \u015fey konu\u015fmad\u0131k. Yorum da yapmad\u0131k.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov: <\/strong>Demek, bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme Sofya\u2019da oldu\u2026?!<\/p><div id=\"bghab-105887820\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-15-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov<\/strong>: Radev\u2019in ne kadar samimi konu\u015ftu\u011funu \u015fimdi g\u00f6rece\u011fiz. \u015eimdi o Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 koltu\u011funa oturacak. Fakat bir \u015feyi o konu\u015fuyorsa, demek oluyor ki, buna gerek var yani halk\u0131n bundan ihtiyac\u0131 var, halk ruhu bunu bekliyor, anlam\u0131ndad\u0131r. O mesajlar\u0131yla halk\u0131n \u00f6zlemine yan\u0131t veriyor. B\u00f6yle konu\u015fmas\u0131n\u0131n nedeni budur. \u00a0Ben samimi oldu\u011funu umut ediyorum.\u00a0 Bilemem. General Radev\u2019\u0131 tan\u0131m\u0131yorum. Rusya\u2019da onu tan\u0131yan yok. Kornelya Ninova\u2019y\u0131 sizde tan\u0131yan \u00e7ok az ki\u015fi var, o da partinin ba\u015f\u0131na yak\u0131nda ge\u00e7ti.\u00a0 Fakat se\u00e7im kampanyas\u0131n\u0131n bu \u015fekilde y\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fclmesini se\u00e7en Radev\u2019in kendisidir. Yani Bulgarlara hitap bi\u00e7imini se\u00e7en o kendisidir.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov<\/strong>: Size \u015f\u00f6yle bir soru sormak istiyorum. Bayan Ninova, General Radev\u2019i iyi tan\u0131m\u0131yor, fakat onun iyi bir Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 olaca\u011f\u0131n\u0131 iddia ediyor, siz y\u0131llar\u0131n\u0131z\u0131 istihbarata vermi\u015f bir ki\u015fi olarak, bu s\u00f6zlere i\u015fitti\u011finizde hayrete d\u00fc\u015fmediniz mi?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov:<\/strong> \u00d6nce \u015funu s\u00f6yleyeyim ben art\u0131k 8 y\u0131ldan beri istihbarat g\u00f6revlisi de\u011filim. Ben Bayan Ninova ile bu adayl\u0131\u011f\u0131n tart\u0131\u015f\u0131lmaya ba\u015fland\u0131\u011f\u0131 zaman g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcm. Ben Bulgaristan\u2019da tatil yap\u0131yordum, bu f\u0131rsatla birka\u00e7 siyasi parti lideri ile g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015ft\u00fcm ve m\u00fczakerede bulunduk. Bu liderlerden kimisi Gen Radev\u2019i tan\u0131yor, baz\u0131lar\u0131 da hi\u00e7 bir \u015fey bilmiyordu. Bayan Ninova bana \u015f\u00f6yle dedi: \u201cKesin de\u011filim. Fakat bu \u00e7ok ilgin\u00e7 bir fikir! Olay\u0131n do\u011fal oldu\u011funu, \u00e7eli\u015fkili olan bir \u015fey olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fcm.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><div id=\"bghab-630962391\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-20-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Koritarov: <\/strong>\u0130lgin\u00e7, demek Bayan Ninova\u2019ya bu fikri veren olmu\u015f\u2026<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov<\/strong>: \u00a0Bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme ge\u00e7en y\u0131l\u0131n eyl\u00fcl\u00fcnde, ekiminde veya kas\u0131m\u0131nda olmu\u015f olsayd\u0131, o zaman \u015fa\u015fk\u0131nl\u0131k yaratabilirdi. Fakat bu yaz g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015ft\u00fck. Yan\u0131lm\u0131yorsam A\u011fustostayd\u0131.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov<\/strong>:\u00a0 Geleneksel konsepte d\u00f6nelim \u00f6yleyse, ad\u0131na tutucu devrim dedi\u011fimiz bu g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f, size g\u00f6re, aralar\u0131nda uzun zamandan beri ciddi \u00e7eli\u015fkiler olan, Rusya ile Bat\u0131 aras\u0131nda yak\u0131nla\u015fmay\u0131 sa\u011flayabilir mi?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov<\/strong>: \u015e\u00f6yle bir durum olu\u015ftu. Birle\u015fik Amerika\u2019daki liberal g\u00fc\u00e7lerin etkisiyle, Bat\u0131 Avrupa\u2019da olu\u015fan elit etkinlik \u00f6mr\u00fcn\u00fc dolduruyorsa, (g\u00fcl\u00fcms\u00fcyor) kan\u0131mca bu art\u0131k oluyor. Orban tipi ki\u015filer, Merkel gibiler ya da onlara benzeyenler i\u00e7in yar\u0131n bitti. Liberal de\u011ferli bu ki\u015filer, onlar i\u00e7in halklara yalan s\u00f6ylendi. Onlar\u0131n gitmesi gerek. Clington da gitti. Amerika\u2019daki sava\u015f\u0131m sona ermemi\u015f olsa da o art\u0131k gitti. Hepsi gidecek. Yenileri geliyor. Gelecekler. Milli tutucu (muhafazak\u00e2r), milli geleneksel geri d\u00f6n\u00fc\u015f (r\u00f6van\u015f \/ \u0130ntikam) ya da sizin daha tam ifade etti\u011finiz gibi devrim e\u011filimi Avrupa\u2019da \u00e7ok g\u00fc\u00e7l\u00fc geli\u015fiyor. Rusya da bu yolda geli\u015fiyor. Biz de liberalizm ve kom\u00fcnizm konseptlerinden kopuyoruz. Biz de Rusya\u2019n\u0131n do\u011fal tarihsel yoluna, Rusya yoluna d\u00f6nebilece\u011fiz. Bu gidi\u015fle biz de Avrupa devletleriyle yeni bir sayfa a\u015fmay\u0131 se\u00e7ece\u011fiz.\u00a0 Birka\u00e7 g\u00fcn \u00f6nce Avrupa\u2019da birka\u00e7 konservatif partinin liderleriyle g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015fme imk\u00e2n\u0131 buldum. Onlar aras\u0131nda hi\u00e7bir konuda, pratik olarak hi\u00e7bir anla\u015fmazl\u0131k yok. Ve onlar bana Moskova\u2019ya bakt\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 ve umutla beklediklerini s\u00f6ylediler. Onlar Rusya\u2019n\u0131n tutucu yolu se\u00e7ece\u011fine inan\u0131yorlar. Bu, Rusya\u2019daki halk ruhuyla \u00f6rt\u00fc\u015fen bir tutumdur. Bu reel bir perspektiftir. Bu y\u0131l olmas\u0131 bir ihtimaldir fakat 2017-18\u2019de ger\u00e7ekle\u015fe bilir. Bug\u00fcn kendilerine biz Avrupal\u0131y\u0131z diyen insanlar gidicidir.<\/p><div id=\"bghab-1019115886\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-25-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov<\/strong>:\u00a0 Baz\u0131 s\u00f6yle\u015filerin de\u011fi\u015fik yerlerinde Bulgaristan\u2019\u0131n NATO ve Avrupa Birli\u011fi\u2019nde \u00e7\u0131kma sinyalleri verece\u011fine i\u015faret edildi. Bunun hesaba kat\u0131lmas\u0131na ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i bir taban var m\u0131d\u0131r?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov<\/strong>: Benim kanaatime g\u00f6re, Bulgaristan kendi ba\u015f\u0131na AB\u2019den \u00e7\u0131kmak istemesinden\u00a0 daha \u00f6nce Avrupa Birli\u011fi kendisi da\u011f\u0131labilir. A i\u00e7indeki s\u00fcre\u00e7ler olumsuzdur ve e\u011filimler\u00a0 \u00e7ok k\u00f6t\u00fc geli\u015fiyor.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov:\u00a0 <\/strong>NATO ile ne olacak?<\/p><div id=\"bghab-1868247119\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-30-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov: <\/strong>NATO da sorun ya\u015fayacak. Se\u00e7im kampanyas\u0131nda Trump\u2019un s\u00f6ylediklerinin ne kadar ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i oldu\u011funa bakaca\u011f\u0131z. Bekleriz g\u00f6r\u00fcr\u00fcz. \u015eunu kesin s\u00f6yleyebilirim: ABD ile Avrupa\u2019y\u0131 \u00e7ok a\u011f\u0131r y\u0131llar bekliyor. Ben bir Rus Bulgar severiyim ve Bulgaristan\u2019\u0131 sevdi\u011fimi de s\u00f6yleyebilirim, ayr\u0131lma ve ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131k yoluna \u00e7\u0131kacak devletleraras\u0131nda Bulgaristan\u2019\u0131n sonuncu olmas\u0131n\u0131 arzu etmiyorum. Avrupal\u0131 fikrinden kurtulup Bulgaristanl\u0131 olma g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcne ba\u011flanmal\u0131s\u0131n\u0131z. Ben Bulgar halk\u0131n\u0131n hala sa\u011f sa\u011fl\u0131m oldu\u011funu g\u00f6rebildim. \u0130nsanlar Bulgar olduklar\u0131n\u0131 unutmuyor. Ku\u015fkusuz Bulgarlar bizim tutucu Ortodoks fikirlerimizin de ta\u015f\u0131y\u0131c\u0131s\u0131d\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov<\/strong>: Se\u00e7ilen Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131m\u0131z Rumen Radev, Bulgaristan\u2019\u0131n NATO d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda ve Avrupa Birli\u011fi d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda yolunu kendi \u00e7izme,\u00a0 kaderini kendi belirleme yolunda ilerlmeyi se\u00e7ebilir mi? Siz kendisinden b\u00f6yle bir \u015fey bekliyor musunuz?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetniko<\/strong>: Biz Gen Rumen Radev\u2019i yak\u0131ndan tan\u0131m\u0131yoruz. B\u00f6yle bir \u015fey s\u00f6ylemek zordur. Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 kampanyas\u0131nda ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i biri olarak ortaya \u00e7\u0131kt\u0131, bir Bulgar olarak, bir yurtsever olarak, ak\u0131l\u0131 biri olarak, ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i bir erkek izlenimi b\u0131rakt\u0131.\u00a0 Fakat bu sonu\u00e7lar\u0131m\u0131z se\u00e7im \u00f6ncesindendir.\u00a0 \u015eimdi bekliyoruz. Biz, siyaset\u00e7ilerin bir \u015fey konu\u015ftu\u011funu, ard\u0131ndan \u00e7ok farkl\u0131 hareket ettiklerini biliyoruz.\u00a0 Fakat s\u00f6z\u00fcne sa\u011fd\u0131k kal\u0131p bu \u00e7izgide y\u00fcr\u00fcmeye devam ederse o bu s\u00fcre\u00e7te \u00e7ok \u00f6nemli rol oynayabilir. Ayn\u0131 zamanda biz Bulgaristan\u2019\u0131n bir cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 Cumhuriyeti olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 da biliyoruz. Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131na ba\u011fl\u0131 olmayan bir\u00e7ok \u015fey var. \u0130\u015f yaln\u0131z cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131nda bitmiyor. Mesela, \u201cG\u00fcney Ak\u0131m\u201d dan vaz ge\u00e7meyecek bir kesinlikte bir Bulgar h\u00fck\u00fcmetine ihtiya\u00e7 var. De\u011fil mi?<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><div id=\"bghab-1379189848\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-35-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Koritarov<\/strong>:\u00a0 Siz \u015fimdi parlamento se\u00e7imlerine mi bel ba\u011fl\u0131yorsunuz?\u00a0 Planlar\u0131n\u0131z meclis se\u00e7imleri \u00fczerine kurulmu\u015f \u00f6yle mi?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Ra\u015fetnikov<\/strong>: Biz, Gen Radev\u2019in se\u00e7im kampanyas\u0131nda \u00f6ne s\u00fcrd\u00fc\u011f\u00fc ve savundu\u011fu d\u00fcnya g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015f\u00fcn\u00fcn ne kadar ger\u00e7ek\u00e7i oldu\u011funu g\u00f6rebilmek i\u00e7in erken se\u00e7imleri bekliyoruz. Erken se\u00e7im bunu do\u011frulamal\u0131d\u0131r. Bulgaristan Sosyalistleri BSP ya da GER partisi General Radev&#8217;in se\u00e7im kampanyas\u0131nda kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131 taktikleri kullan\u0131r ve r\u00f6van\u015f propagandas\u0131 yaparsa se\u00e7imi kazanamayaca\u011f\u0131na eminim. Bu partiler Bulgar se\u00e7meni y\u00fcreklendirecek, kazanacak fikirlerle ortaya \u00e7\u0131kmal\u0131d\u0131r. Bizim analizlerimizin e g\u00f6sterdi\u011fi \u00fczere, Bulgaristan\u2019da pek \u00e7ok ki\u015fi and\u0131\u011fa gitmek istemiyor. H\u00fck\u00fcmet de\u011fi\u015fikliklerinden hi\u00e7bir \u015fey \u00e7\u0131kmad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 g\u00f6rd\u00fckleri ve buna inand\u0131klar\u0131 i\u00e7in se\u00e7ime kat\u0131lmay\u0131 umumiyetle istemiyorlar. Bu y\u00fczden siyasi partilerin se\u00e7im meydan\u0131na nas\u0131l fikirle \u00e7\u0131kaca\u011f\u0131 \u00e7ok \u00f6nemlidir. Bu nedenle ben, Radev\u2019in avundu\u011fu idelerin do\u011fru oldu\u011funa inan\u0131yorum.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov<\/strong>: \u0130zninizle size bir \u015fey hat\u0131rlatmak istiyorum. Ge\u00e7en y\u0131l siz \u015f\u00f6yle demi\u015ftiniz.<\/p>\n<p>Bir gazetecinin size sordu\u011fu soru \u015fuydu: \u201cK\u0131r\u0131m\u2019\u0131n ilhak\u0131ndan sonra \u00fclkemiz uluslararas\u0131 tecrit duruma d\u00fc\u015fm\u00fc\u015fse, G\u00fcney Do\u011fu\u2019ya neden Va Bank oynam\u0131yoruz? Biz ne kadar iki y\u00fczl\u00fc oynayabiliriz?\u201d<\/p><div id=\"bghab-3488603767\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-40-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>Sizin verdiniz cevap \u015fu olmu\u015ftu: \u201cVa Bank oynamam\u0131z i\u00e7in erkendir. \u201cAvrupa\u2019da kem g\u00f6zlerden sakl\u0131 baz\u0131 s\u00fcre\u00e7lerin geli\u015fti\u011fini ve bunlar\u0131n bize \u00e7\u0131karlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131 ba\u015fka y\u00f6ntem ve ara\u00e7larla savunmam\u0131z olanak verdi\u011fini bilmeliyiz ve Rusya Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131\u2019n\u0131n her konuda bilgi sahibi oldu\u011funu g\u00f6zden ka\u00e7\u0131rmamal\u0131y\u0131z.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Siz bu demeci \u0130ngiltere\u2019de \u201cbreksit\u201d yap\u0131lmazdan bir y\u0131l \u00f6nce vermi\u015ftiniz. Siz olaylar\u0131n \u201cbreksit\u201d e gidece\u011fini ve bir s\u00fcr\u00fc ba\u015fka geli\u015fme izlenece\u011fini yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131z analizlerde \u00f6ng\u00f6rebilmi\u015f miydiniz?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov<\/strong>: Bizim enstit\u00fcm\u00fcz \u00e7ok iyi \u00e7al\u0131\u015f\u0131yor. Analizimiz tamd\u0131.\u201d Breksitte\u201d yanl\u0131\u015f yapmad\u0131k. \u201cVa Bank\u201d sava\u015f demektir. Biz yanl\u0131\u015f yapmad\u0131k.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov: <\/strong>Say\u0131n Re\u015fetnikov Avrupa\u2019da geli\u015fen hangi olaylar \u00fcst\u00fcne bilgi sahibisiniz?<\/p><div id=\"bghab-4124914972\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-45-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov: \u00a0<\/strong>Bilgi sahibi olanlar. \u0130stihbarat \u00f6rg\u00fctleridir. Bizim enstit\u00fcm\u00fcz Bat\u0131 haber ara\u00e7lar\u0131ndan, TV, radyo, gazete, dergi vb kaynaklardan ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z bilgileri analiz ediyor. Politika bilimcilerinden, sosyologlardan bizim bilgi kayna\u011f\u0131m\u0131zd\u0131r. Biz s\u00fcre\u00e7leri analiz ediyoruz.<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u00a0<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov: <\/strong>Yani siz aleni kaynaklar\u0131 kullan\u0131yorsunuz. Onlar \u00e7ok de\u011ferli tabii.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov: <\/strong>Evet bizim enstit\u00fcm\u00fcz harkesin kulland\u0131\u011f\u0131 kaynaklar\u0131 kullan\u0131yor. \u0130stihbarat\u0131n nas\u0131l \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ben \u015fu an bilmiyorum, fakat \u00e7ok iyi \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131klar\u0131n\u0131 tahmin edebiliyorum.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov: \u00a0<\/strong>\u015eimdi sizi 1990\u2019l\u0131 y\u0131llara g\u00f6t\u00fcrmek istiyorum. O zaman istihbaratta g\u00f6revliydiniz. Bulgaristan\u2019da \u00e7al\u0131\u015ft\u0131n\u0131z. Bulgaristan\u2019da Hak ve \u00d6zg\u00fcrl\u00fckler Hareketi\u2019nin kurulu\u015funu hat\u0131rl\u0131yorsunuzdur. Sizin H\u00d6H-DPS hareketinde dostlar\u0131n\u0131z var m\u0131?<\/p><div id=\"bghab-1058145958\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-50-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov: <\/strong>Hay\u0131r, benim dostum yok. Ben Bulgaristan\u2019a 1991\u2019de geldim.\u00a0 H\u00d6H hareketi art\u0131k kurulmu\u015ftu. Ne ki, Bulgar siyasi partilerinde benim tan\u0131d\u0131klar\u0131m ve dostlar\u0131m var tabii. Fakat onlar ulusal az\u0131nl\u0131k partilerinde de\u011fil. Tan\u0131d\u0131\u011f\u0131m Bulgaristanl\u0131 T\u00fcrkler var.\u00a0 Siyasi ba\u011flant\u0131lar\u0131m yoktur.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong>Koritarov:\u00a0 <\/strong>Parti olarak, politik ara\u00e7 olarak, bunlar analiz nesnesi olarak ilgin\u00e7 midir?<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov: <\/strong>Biz Rusya\u2019da H\u00d6H gibi bir parti kuramay\u0131z. Anayasam\u0131z izin vermiyor. Pek bilemiyorum da, \u00e7ok ilgin\u00e7. H\u00d6H partisi ve onun bayra\u011f\u0131 olan, Ahmet Do\u011fan ger\u00e7ek Bulgar vatanda\u015f\u0131 oldular. Ben s\u0131k s\u0131k onlar\u0131 yurtsever tav\u0131rlar\u0131ndan dolay\u0131 kutluyorum. \u00d6teki parti, o ba\u015fka, o T\u00fcrk\u00e7\u00fc. H\u00d6H Bulgar ruhlu eylemde bulunuyor. \u0130z, bizim \u00c7uva\u015f ve Tatarlar\u0131m\u0131z\u0131n da Rus yurtseverler olarak hareket etmesini arzu ediyoruz. Bizde b\u00f6yle bir parti yok. H\u00d6H sizin denemenizdir. Sizin deneyiminizdir. Ne kadar ba\u015far\u0131l\u0131 oldu\u011funuzu bilmiyorum fakat H\u00d6H \u00fcyeleri Bulgaristan\u2019da kendi vatanlar\u0131n\u0131 bulmu\u015ftur ve g\u00f6zleri s\u0131n\u0131r d\u0131\u015f\u0131nda de\u011fildir.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p><div id=\"bghab-2017349430\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-55-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p><strong>Koritarov:\u00a0\u00a0\u00a0 <\/strong>Sonunda sizden Bulgaristan\u2019\u0131n gelece\u011fi \u00fcst\u00fcne g\u00f6r\u00fc\u015flerinizi \u00f6\u011frenmek istiyorum.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Re\u015fetnikov: <\/strong>Umudumuz Bulgaristan\u2019\u0131n Bulgaristan olmas\u0131d\u0131r. Bulgaristanl\u0131lar\u0131n Bulgaristan\u2019a d\u00f6nmesidir. Biz Bat\u0131 medeniyeti ile ilgilenmiyoruz. Ben Bulgaristan\u2019dan Bulgaristan olarak ilgileniyorum.\u00a0 Bulgarlardan da Bulgar olarak ilgileniyorum. Milliyet\u00e7iler olarak de\u011fil Bulgarlar olarak ilgileniyorum onlardan. Bulgaristan beni ve bizi bu a\u00e7\u0131dan ilgileniyor. Bizi ilgilendiren Pirin Da\u011f\u0131ndaki da\u011f evi, Rodoplarda bir konak de\u011fil. Umudumuz budur. Ayn\u0131 zamanda Rusya da Rusya\u2019ya d\u00f6nmelidir. Bulgaristan da Bulgaristan\u2019a d\u00f6nmelidir. Bu olursa ili\u015fkilerimiz Sovyet zaman\u0131nda ve Sovyet zaman\u0131nda oldu\u011fundan \u00e7ok daha yak\u0131n olacakt\u0131r. \u00c7ok daha yak\u0131n.<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>Biz Ruslar ve Bulgarlar ve Rumlar, Bulgar Frans\u0131zlar\u0131, Amerikanc\u0131 Ruslar vs olmaktan kurtulabilirsek. Bunu istemek bir aptall\u0131kt\u0131r. Allah bizi Bulgar, Rus, Rum ve S\u0131rp vb yaratm\u0131\u015fsa \u00f6yle kalmal\u0131y\u0131z. Biz kimli\u011fimizi korumal\u0131y\u0131z. Bulgar, Bulgar kalmal\u0131 Ruslar da Rus kalmal\u0131d\u0131r. Bu iyi bir perspektiftir. Bu olursa ili\u015fkilerimiz \u00e7ok daha iyi olur. Daha \u00f6nce \u201cSovyetler Birli\u011fi \u2013 B\u00fcy\u00fck Karde\u015fimiz\u201d havalar\u0131 at\u0131yorduk. Bundan vaz ge\u00e7meliyiz. Yeni ili\u015fkiler, Bulgar olduklar\u0131 i\u00e7in gurur duyan ve Rus olduklar\u0131 i\u00e7in gurur duyan insanlar aras\u0131nda sam\u0131m\u0131 ili\u015fkiler olarak geli\u015fmelidir. O zaman bizim bu tip ili\u015fkilerimiz eksi\u011fimiz olunca fenal\u0131k ge\u00e7iririz.<\/p>\n<div id=\"bghab-3247121119\" class=\"bghab-yazi-altinda bghab-entity-placement\"><div class=\"bghab-adlabel\">Reklamlar<\/div><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- bghaber-yaz\u0131-sonu -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"4222328180\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script><\/div><br style=\"clear: both; display: block; float: none;\"\/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Cumhurba\u015fkan\u0131 Radev, Bulgaristan\u2019\u0131n NATO ve AB\u2019den ba\u011f\u0131ms\u0131zl\u0131\u011f\u0131 i\u00e7in rol oynayabilir. 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