{"id":14306,"date":"2015-03-24T16:15:15","date_gmt":"2015-03-24T14:15:15","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/?p=14306"},"modified":"2015-03-24T16:15:15","modified_gmt":"2015-03-24T14:15:15","slug":"iste-osmanli-belgelerine-gore-nursinin-seceresi","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.bghaber.org\/bghaber\/iste-osmanli-belgelerine-gore-nursinin-seceresi\/","title":{"rendered":"\u0130\u015fte Osmanl\u0131 belgelerine g\u00f6re Nursi&#8217;nin \u015feceresi"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Son g\u00fcnlerde <a class=\"keyword\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dunyabulteni.net\/arama.php?query=Said-i+Nursi\">Said-i Nursi<\/a>&#8216;nin \u015feceresiyle ilgili olarak ortaya at\u0131lan ve belgelere dayand\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 iddia edilen tezler Ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131 Ar\u015fivci Abdullah Demir taraf\u0131ndan belgeleriyle \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcld\u00fc.<\/p>\n<p>Prof. Dr. Ahmet Akg\u00fcnd\u00fcz&#8217;\u00fcn \u00f6nc\u00fcl\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde bir ekip taraf\u0131ndan yap\u0131lan ara\u015ft\u0131rmada belgelere dayan\u0131larak <a class=\"keyword\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dunyabulteni.net\/arama.php?query=Said-i+Nursi\">Said-i Nursi<\/a>&#8216;nin Seyyid oldu\u011fu iddia ediliyordu. Ancak, Ar\u015fivci Ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131 Demir, Osmanl\u0131 ar\u015fivlerinde yer alan belgelerle Akg\u00fcnd\u00fcz ve ekibinin t\u00fcm tezlerinin temelsiz oldu\u011fun ortaya koydu. Demir, toplad\u0131\u011f\u0131 ar\u015fiv belgelerini &#8220;Osmanl\u0131 Belgelerine G\u00f6re <a class=\"keyword\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dunyabulteni.net\/arama.php?query=Said-i+Nursi\">Said-i Nursi<\/a>&#8216;nin Seyyidli\u011fi Meselesi&#8221; isimli kitapta da yay\u0131nlad\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEYY\u0130D K\u0130MLERE DEN\u0130R?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>D\u00fcnya B\u00fclteni i\u00e7in de konuyu kaleme alan Demir, \u00f6ncelikle Seyyidli\u011fin tan\u0131m\u0131n\u0131 yapt\u0131. Demir&#8217;in yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131 tanma g\u00f6re, &#8220;Peygamberimiz (SAV)\u2019in nesebinden, di\u011fer bir de\u011fi\u015fle Hz. Ali ve Fat\u0131ma\u2019n\u0131n \u00e7ocuklar\u0131ndan, yani Hz. Hasan ve H\u00fcseyin (RA)\u2019in soyundan gelen ve sahih bir \u015fekilde m\u00fcteselsilen nesep defterlerine tescil ve tespit edilenlere -neslen- Seyyid&#8221; denir. Manevi Seyyidlik kavram\u0131n\u0131n oldu\u011funu belirten Demir, Allah yolunda hayatlar\u0131n\u0131 vakfedenlerin de bu kategoriye girdi\u011fini, Hz. Muhammed&#8217;in aslen Farisi olan Sahabe Salman-\u0131 Farisi i\u00e7in &#8220;Selman bendendir ve ehl-i beytimdendir.&#8221; hadisini buna delil olarak g\u00f6sterdi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>MANEV\u0130 SEYY\u0130DL\u0130K<\/strong><\/p><div id=\"bghab-2478986286\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>&#8220;Gayemiz, asla insanlar\u0131n etnik k\u00f6kenleriyle u\u011fra\u015fmak de\u011fil, sadece bir hakikatin ortaya \u00e7\u0131kmas\u0131na vesile olmakt\u0131r&#8221; diyen Abdullah Demir, &#8220;Sahabe-i kiramdan Selman-\u0131 Farisi (RA) ne kadar seyyid ise \u00dcstad Bediuzzaman <a class=\"keyword\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dunyabulteni.net\/arama.php?query=Said-i+Nursi\">Said-i Nursi<\/a>\u2019de o derecede seyyiddir.&#8221; diye yazd\u0131.<\/p>\n<p><strong>SEYY\u0130DL\u0130K \u015eECERES\u0130 NASIL ALINIR?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Seyyidlik \u015feceresinin nas\u0131l al\u0131nd\u0131\u011f\u0131 konusuna da a\u00e7\u0131kl\u0131k getiren Abdullah Demir, &#8220;Herhangi bir \u015fah\u0131s siyadet davas\u0131nda bulundu\u011fu takdirde b\u00f6lgede bulunan Nakib\u00fc\u2019l-e\u015fraf\u2019a veyahut b\u00f6lgede bulunan adli mercilere m\u00fcracaat eder. Yap\u0131lan m\u00fcracaat \u00fczerine defter kay\u0131tlar\u0131na bak\u0131l\u0131r seyyid olup olmad\u0131\u011f\u0131na dair kay\u0131tlar onu do\u011frular nitelikte ise mahkeme \u015fahitlerin de ikrar\u0131 \u00fczerine tescili yap\u0131l\u0131r ve kendisine h\u00fcccet-i \u015fer\u2018iyye verilerek siyadeti tasdik olunur. S\u00f6z konusu \u015fecerede Said Nursi\u2019nin mahkemeye b\u00f6yle bir m\u00fcracaat\u0131 bulunmamaktad\u0131r. Herhangi bir m\u00fcracaat olmadan siyadet defterine kayd\u0131n\u0131n yap\u0131lmas\u0131 m\u00fcmk\u00fcn de\u011fildir.&#8221; dedi.<\/p>\n<p><strong>AKG\u00dcND\u00dcZ&#8217;\u00dcN \u015eERECES\u0130NDEK\u0130 EKS\u0130KL\u0130KLER<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Demir, Prof. Dr. Akg\u00fcnd\u00fcz ve ekibinin yay\u0131nlad\u0131\u011f\u0131 \u015feredeki eksiklilkleri \u015f\u00f6yle s\u0131ralad\u0131:<\/p><div id=\"bghab-622874010\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-10-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>1- \u015eecereler tanzim edilirken \u00fczerinde Nak\u00eeb\u00fc\u2019l-E\u015fraf&#8217;\u0131n, mahkeme kad\u0131s\u0131n\u0131n ve \u015fuhud\u00fc\u2019l-hal dedi\u011fimiz \u015fahitlerin imza ve m\u00fch\u00fcrlerinin olmas\u0131 \u015fart\u0131 vard\u0131r. Bu \u015fecerenin \u00fc\u00e7 yerinde Nak\u00eeb\u00fc\u2019l-E\u015fraf&#8217;\u0131n \u00fc\u00e7 m\u00fchr\u00fc vard\u0131r, fakat hi\u00e7birinde isim yer almamaktad\u0131r. \u015eecerede sadece \u201cNekabet\u00fc\u2019s-Sadat\u00fc\u2019l-E\u015fraf\u201d lafz\u0131 yazmaktad\u0131r. Halbuki, ayn\u0131 m\u00fch\u00fcrde \u015fahs\u0131n ismi ile unvan\u0131 yaz\u0131lmal\u0131 ve m\u00fchr\u00fcn hangi tarihte h\u00e2k edildi\u011fi yer almal\u0131yd\u0131. Bu \u015fecerede ise \u201cNekabet\u00fc\u2019s-Sadat\u00fc\u2019l-E\u015fraf\u201d lafz\u0131 yer almakla birlikte m\u00fchr\u00fcn kime ait oldu\u011fu ve m\u00fchr\u00fcn hangi tarihte kaz\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 yer almamaktad\u0131r.<\/p>\n<p>2- \u015eecere \u015eeyh Abd\u00fclkadir Geylani (KS)\u2019ye kadar uzanmaktad\u0131r. Geylani\u2019den sonras\u0131n\u0131 yani Hz. Hasan\u2019a kadar uzanan on iki babay\u0131 ise yazar ensab kitaplar\u0131n\u0131 kaynak g\u00f6stererek \u015fecereyi tamamlamak \u00fczere yazmaya \u00e7al\u0131\u015fm\u0131\u015ft\u0131r. Bu \u015fecereye Hiyaliyyin \u015feceresi denmez, ancak ve ancak Ahmet Akg\u00fcnd\u00fcz \u015feceresi denir. \u00c7\u00fcnk\u00fc kendisi d\u00fczenlemi\u015ftir. \u015eecerede yer almayan isimleri kendisi yerle\u015ftirerek yeni bir \u015fecere olu\u015fturmu\u015ftur.<\/p>\n<p>3 &#8211; Hiyaliyyin \u015feceresi \u015eeyh Abd\u00fclkadir Geylani\u2019den ba\u015flay\u0131p Mirza Re\u015fan\u2019da bitmi\u015ftir. Hamed el-Hiyali taraf\u0131ndan \u00dcstad Bedi\u00fczzaman ve annesi ilave edilmi\u015ftir. Mirza Re\u015fan ile <a class=\"keyword\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dunyabulteni.net\/arama.php?query=Said-i+Nursi\">Said-i Nursi<\/a>aras\u0131nda d\u00f6rt baba yer almamaktad\u0131r. Hiyaliyyin \u015feceresine yazar d\u00f6rt babay\u0131 ilave ederek <a class=\"keyword\" href=\"http:\/\/www.dunyabulteni.net\/arama.php?query=Said-i+Nursi\">Said-i Nursi<\/a>\u2019ye kadar silsilenameyi getirmi\u015ftir.<\/p>\n<p>4 &#8211; \u015eecerenin ana kayna\u011f\u0131n\u0131 te\u015fkil eden yaz\u0131da \u015fu ifade yer almaktad\u0131r: \u201cAbd\u00fclvahab, Abdullah ve Mirza Re\u015fan ve min z\u00fcrriyetihi e\u015f-\u015eeyh \u00dcstazuna el-Ekrem Saidi\u2019n-Nursi el-Hiyali el-Geylani el-H\u00fcseyni ve validetuhu Hasaniyet\u00fc\u2019bn\u00fc z\u00fcrriye\u201d\u00a0 Ancak bu silsile Akg\u00fcnd\u00fcz\u2019\u00fcn \u015fecereyi dahi yanl\u0131\u015f okudu\u011funu veya hi\u00e7 okumad\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ortaya koymaktad\u0131r. \u015eecerede Said Nursi\u2019nin nesebinin Hz. H\u00fcseyin\u2019e dayand\u0131\u011f\u0131 ve annesinin soyunun da Hz. Hasan\u2019a dayand\u0131\u011f\u0131 kayd\u0131 yer almaktad\u0131r. Yazar ise \u015fecerede ge\u00e7en metnin aksine Bedi\u00fczzaman\u2019\u0131n soyunun Hz. Hasan\u2019a dayand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 dolay\u0131s\u0131yla \u015ferif oldu\u011funu, annesinin soyunun da Hz H\u00fcseyin\u2019e dayand\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 ve ayn\u0131 zamanda seyyid oldu\u011funu ifade etmektedir.<\/p>\n<p>5 &#8211; Ba\u015fbakanl\u0131k Devlet Ar\u015fivi\u2019nden \u015eeyh Abd\u00fclkadir Geylani (KS) ile ilgi ald\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131z \u015fecereyle birebir kar\u015f\u0131la\u015ft\u0131rma yapt\u0131\u011f\u0131m\u0131zda \u015fecerede yer alan isimlerin birbiriyle tezat te\u015fkil etti\u011fini g\u00f6rmekteyiz. \u015e\u00f6yle ki, ar\u015fivdeki \u015fecere Seyyid el-Hamidi el-Kadiri\u2019den ba\u015flay\u0131p Hz. Hasan\u2019a dayanmakta iken Hiyali A\u015fireti \u015feceresinde bu silsilename bulunmamaktad\u0131r.<\/p><div id=\"bghab-3797345197\" class=\"bghab-icerik-icine-15-paragraf bghab-entity-placement\"><script async src=\"\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js?client=ca-pub-6203283170189293\" crossorigin=\"anonymous\"><\/script><ins class=\"adsbygoogle\" style=\"display:block; text-align:center;\" data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\" \ndata-ad-slot=\"7303146466\" \ndata-ad-layout=\"in-article\"\ndata-ad-format=\"fluid\" data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\n<script> \n(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({}); \n<\/script>\n<\/div>\n<p>6 &#8211; \u015eecere ba\u015ftan sona kadar tek bir hattan ve tek kalemden istinsah edilmi\u015ftir. \u015eecerede yer alan m\u00fch\u00fcrlerin hi\u00e7birinde imza bulunmamaktad\u0131r. Ayr\u0131ca \u201cNekabet\u00fc\u2019s-Sadat\u00fc\u2019l-E\u015fraf\u201d m\u00fch\u00fcrleri bulunmakta ancak hi\u00e7birinde sadat\u0131n isimleri yer almamaktad\u0131r. H\u00e2lbuki Osmanl\u0131 Ar\u015fivi belgelerinde yer alan silsilename ve neseb h\u00fcccetlerinde Nekabet\u00fc\u2019l-E\u015fraf\u0131n ismi m\u00fch\u00fcrlerde yer almaktad\u0131r.\u00a0 Ayr\u0131ca Hiyali \u015feceresinde yer alan m\u00fch\u00fcrlerin yaz\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131lar\u0131 kumpasla \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcld\u00fc\u011f\u00fcnde yaz\u0131lar ayn\u0131 a\u00e7\u0131y\u0131 g\u00f6stermektedir. H\u00e2lbuki kaz\u0131lan m\u00fch\u00fcrlerde ayn\u0131 \u00f6l\u00e7\u00fcy\u00fc bulma imk\u00e2n\u0131 yoktur. Bu durum, m\u00fch\u00fcrdeki yaz\u0131lar\u0131n bilgisayarda haz\u0131rland\u0131\u011f\u0131n\u0131 kuvvetlendirmektedir.<\/p>\n<div id=\"bghab-3055877383\" class=\"bghab-yazi-altinda bghab-entity-placement\"><div class=\"bghab-adlabel\">Reklamlar<\/div><script async src=\"https:\/\/pagead2.googlesyndication.com\/pagead\/js\/adsbygoogle.js\"><\/script>\r\n<!-- bghaber-yaz\u0131-sonu -->\r\n<ins class=\"adsbygoogle\"\r\n     style=\"display:block\"\r\n     data-ad-client=\"ca-pub-6203283170189293\"\r\n     data-ad-slot=\"4222328180\"\r\n     data-ad-format=\"auto\"\r\n     data-full-width-responsive=\"true\"><\/ins>\r\n<script>\r\n     (adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});\r\n<\/script><\/div><br style=\"clear: both; display: block; float: none;\"\/>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Son g\u00fcnlerde Said-i Nursi&#8216;nin \u015feceresiyle ilgili olarak ortaya at\u0131lan ve belgelere dayand\u0131r\u0131ld\u0131\u011f\u0131 iddia edilen tezler Ara\u015ft\u0131rmac\u0131 Ar\u015fivci Abdullah Demir taraf\u0131ndan belgeleriyle \u00e7\u00fcr\u00fct\u00fcld\u00fc. 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